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		By: Adrienne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrienne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2024 05:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-28969&quot;&gt;Julie&lt;/a&gt;.

yes, this! 
It would be a relief to know that it was finding the correct pairs through the analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-28969">Julie</a>.</p>
<p>yes, this!<br />
It would be a relief to know that it was finding the correct pairs through the analysis.</p>
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		By: Julie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2023 11:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know that the pairing is done between the first x and y pair, however, we often have long data formats that are not necessarily ordered in a way that this pairing makes sense. Could I include ID in the analysis to ensure the pairings are made correctly without too much manual work on the data frame?

Many thanks for considering my request.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that the pairing is done between the first x and y pair, however, we often have long data formats that are not necessarily ordered in a way that this pairing makes sense. Could I include ID in the analysis to ensure the pairings are made correctly without too much manual work on the data frame?</p>
<p>Many thanks for considering my request.</p>
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		By: Ruth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
thank you for this tutorial
I&#039;m a bit confused since the title and subtitles talk about mean comparison but everywhere else inside the tutorial it seems that these tests are used for median comparison. Could this be fixed or explained?
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
thank you for this tutorial<br />
I&#8217;m a bit confused since the title and subtitles talk about mean comparison but everywhere else inside the tutorial it seems that these tests are used for median comparison. Could this be fixed or explained?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		By: Adrian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2021 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worth mentioning, that the stochastic equivalence is a general term and isn&#039;t limited only to the shift in location. You may have perfectly equal medians and it will reject H0 if the dispersions vary. That&#039;s why it&#039;s not a test of medians, but rather pseudo medians, which approach medians, as the data get symmetric and have equal dispersion. You mention the pseudomedians, that&#039;s very good! I write it just because many, many people treat the MW(W) test as a test of medians (or median difference), which *approximates* it only in a certain, special and quite rare case. As the famous article says (can be googled in seconds): &quot;Mann-Whitney fails as a test of medians&quot;. Same about the Kruskal-Wallis or Friedman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth mentioning, that the stochastic equivalence is a general term and isn&#8217;t limited only to the shift in location. You may have perfectly equal medians and it will reject H0 if the dispersions vary. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s not a test of medians, but rather pseudo medians, which approach medians, as the data get symmetric and have equal dispersion. You mention the pseudomedians, that&#8217;s very good! I write it just because many, many people treat the MW(W) test as a test of medians (or median difference), which *approximates* it only in a certain, special and quite rare case. As the famous article says (can be googled in seconds): &#8220;Mann-Whitney fails as a test of medians&#8221;. Same about the Kruskal-Wallis or Friedman.</p>
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		By: Lennard Jer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennard Jer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2021 12:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21417&quot;&gt;Jan Pecháček&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you !!
I wrote following and it works perfectly!
Wilc_Mean % rstatix::wilcox_test(Mean_HOR ~ Mean_MYG, paired = TRUE)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21417">Jan Pecháček</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you !!<br />
I wrote following and it works perfectly!<br />
Wilc_Mean % rstatix::wilcox_test(Mean_HOR ~ Mean_MYG, paired = TRUE)</p>
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		By: GPC		</title>
		<link>https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-22148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GPC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2021 16:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No assumptions check for the standard Wilcoxon one?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No assumptions check for the standard Wilcoxon one?</p>
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		By: Jan Pecháček		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Pecháček]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21412&quot;&gt;Jack&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!!!! Now it wokrs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21412">Jack</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!!!! Now it wokrs</p>
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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 00:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21287&quot;&gt;Johanna W&lt;/a&gt;.

I solved it today. I think there might be other packages in conflict so you can work around it by specifying the rstatix package:

rstatix::wilcox_test()]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21287">Johanna W</a>.</p>
<p>I solved it today. I think there might be other packages in conflict so you can work around it by specifying the rstatix package:</p>
<p>rstatix::wilcox_test()</p>
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		By: Jack Sharples		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Sharples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21287&quot;&gt;Johanna W&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m getting this error now even though it was working for me this morning. what gives?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.datanovia.com/en/lessons/wilcoxon-test-in-r/#comment-21287">Johanna W</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting this error now even though it was working for me this morning. what gives?</p>
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		By: Anne Mari		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Mari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2020 14:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello. I tried the Wilcoxon signed rank test on paired samples as described here, and by using GraphPad Prism. I do not get the same result. How does the wilcox_test deal with cases where there has been no change from before to after? And how does it handle zero&#039;s? For exampled that you looked at the relative abundance of some bacteria in 30 people before and after some treatment. But then you have a couple of people that did not change at all, or you have some people that had 0 abundance before and still 0 abundance after. Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I tried the Wilcoxon signed rank test on paired samples as described here, and by using GraphPad Prism. I do not get the same result. How does the wilcox_test deal with cases where there has been no change from before to after? And how does it handle zero&#8217;s? For exampled that you looked at the relative abundance of some bacteria in 30 people before and after some treatment. But then you have a couple of people that did not change at all, or you have some people that had 0 abundance before and still 0 abundance after. Thanks</p>
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